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| + | ===Shea's orphanage=== | ||
| + | In Demiforce's translation, the village was burned down. Originally, only the other orphans were killed. | ||
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| + | "And..." | ||
| + | I recalls that girl with a monastery robe, that robe is unique...But Magil is keeping on talking, it seems he doesn't notice my question at all. | ||
| + | When I'm thinking I might be ignored... | ||
| + | "That's the uniform of the ancient Communion of the Four Spirits ." | ||
| + | But, hearing Magil talking about it, Kid scowls immediately. | ||
| + | "Kid used to live there..." | ||
| + | I remembered, Magil talked about that before. Kid was an orphan adopted by a Sister from the Communion of the Four Spirits. It is said, she was also an orphan, so she got along well with Kid. | ||
| + | But one day, she was taken away by Lynx's minion and never returned. Kid was still very young at that time. | ||
| + | Kid sneaked out of the communion. She wanted to find her in Lynx's house. But little Kid did not managed to reach Lynx's house. When she came back to the village, she found the orphans were all dead. | ||
| + | Magil, a regular vistor of the communion, came to the orphanage one day. He found Kid sitting among the mummyfied corpses, biting her lip while staring at the direction of Lynx's house. | ||
| + | Kid had not spoken for a whole year...it is said, since then, Magil never saw her cry... | ||
==Scenario 7: The Shadow Realm and the Goddess of Death== | ==Scenario 7: The Shadow Realm and the Goddess of Death== | ||
Revision as of 07:43, 19 December 2008
In December 2008, a Compendiumite named utunnels retranslated certain scenes in Radical Dreamers, sometimes uncovering a different picture of the characters and events than what Demiforce gave us. This page tracks Radical Dreamers translation differences that are closer to the original than the Demiforce translation.
Contents
Scenario 1: Le Trésor Interdit
Mouth of Truth
In the original Japanese version, there were differences with the lipstick, file, and hand-shaped plate. The lipstick is revealed to have a special use for the thieves:
「オレの口紅～っ！！」 "My lipstick!!" <pre>真っ赤に艶めく髭老人の唇に、キッド の怒りが大爆発する。
Seeing the red lips of the beard-oldman, Kid explodes in anger.
「いいじゃないか、キッド、お化粧なんて しないんだから」
"What's wrong, Kid, isn't that how cosmetics are used for?"
「その紅はなぁ、迷いやすい道とかで、 マーキングに使うんだよ！」
"This lipstick is used for drawing marks just in case we lose our way."
The file wasn't a nail file, but an industrial hand tool:
「命の次に大事な、７つ道具のヤスリ がーーーーッ！！！」
"As one of the 7 tools, only life is more important than that file!!!"
Finally, the hand-shaped plate is revealed to have contained the ultimate truth of the universe, which the Mouth of Truth refuses to speak.
……これこそ、まさに大宇宙の究極の真理……
...This is it, the ultimate truth of the universe...
「この世の真理に、さすがの真実の口も舌を巻いたみたいだな」
"Seeing the truth of the world, even the Mouth of Truth will coil its tongue up."
ギルが、冗談とも本気ともつかないことを、まじめな口調で言う。
Even when making a joke like this, Magil still uses his usual serious tone.
「この世の真理だって？ あの象形文字 が？ しくじった！ うつしとっときゃ 高く売れたかもしれないのに！」
"The truth of the world? Those pictograph characters? Damn it! We could sell it for a high price!"
悔しそうにキッドがパチッと、指を鳴らす。
Kid says, snapping her fingers, regrettably.
The Spiked Ceiling
In Demiforce's version, thrusting the Einlanzer into the ceiling results in death:
"Okay! Let's smash the ceiling!" I shout, swinging the sword over my head!
The wooden structure shatters from the huge sword's impact! A number of rusty blades are now in free-fall, headed straight for us!!
I try to protect myself, but the dozens of tiny razor sharp blades painfully tear into me!
In the original Japanese, it merely took 10 HP:
「よし、この剣で天井を打ち砕いてや る！！」
"OK, let's break the ceiling with this sword!!"
ボクは、剣を上に突き上げた！
I thrust upward fiecely with the sword.
ガガガ……！！
[Sound of metal collision]
天井から突き出た無数の刃にはねと ばされ、ボクは床に転がった！
But it's deflected by countless blades in the ceiling, and I fall on the ground.
The Death of Venus
In Demiforce's version, the mirror invites Serge first, and his resistance seems to crack the mirror. In the original, the mirror invites Kid first, who tells Serge to try instead. Serge barely gets a hand in before Venus seems to break herself, revealing that she is a servant of Lynx.
Demiforce
"Ah, Master Serge. Is there something I can answer for you?" the statue asks in a pleasant voice. "Or, perhaps, you'd be interested in this lovely gift I have for you?"
"Huh? A gift?"
"Only a modest token of my appreciation for you and your comrades. I present you with a personal invitation into the Realm of the Looking Glass, if you are interested."
"Wow, really?"
"Yes, but we must hurry. Time is of the essence."
I look towards the dark, rippling surface of the mirror. Slowly, I reach my hand out towards it.
It feels like my hand is being submerged in water, passing straight into the mirror...
Suddenly, there's a slight pull. I try to retract my arm, but the harder I pull, the further I seem to be getting drawn in...
"Master Serge! Take your hand out, quickly!!"
Just then, a crack streaks across the mirror!
"What's... going on!?"
Amidst my struggling, I see a crack start to streak down the mirror's glass...
"Save yourself, Master Serge... Please, before I am forced to consume you..."
"What!?"
Kid starts pulling with me, despite the increasing force drawing me in! I'm now up to my shoulder in this thing!
"On the count of three," I yell!
"One, two, three!!"
We tumble backwards, falling onto the couch. I look at my arm in a daze. It's fine.
Shaking myself off, I return to the mirror, now even more cracked since I last saw it.
utunnels
「まあ！ そんなことおっしゃられたら、 お連れの方が気を悪くされますわよ」
"Oh! You have an ill sense of humour. "
ビーナスがいたずらっぽく笑う。
Venus laughs mischievously.
「なんだって？」
"What?"
ピクっとキッドの表情が、こわばった。
Kid responses with a stiffened face.
「なんでオレが、怒るんだよ！？」
"Why me!? (You enraged me)"
「そう熱くならないでくださいませ。 皆様に、素敵なプレゼントがございます のよ」
"Don't be so sensitive. I have a nice gift for everyone."
「プレゼント？」 "Gift?" <pre>「と言ってもささやかな物ですけれど。 鏡のなかを、体験していただくのも一 興かと思いまして」
"Although it might be too trivial to mention. But it'll be an interesting experience visiting the Mirror Realm."
「鏡の国に招待してくれるってのか？」
"You invite us to the Mirror Realm?"
キッドはちょっと乗り気のようだ。
Kid asks curiously.
「お時間はとらせませんわ。 さあ、キッド様。どうぞ……」
"We have limited time. So, Master Kid. Please..."
鏡面が水のように波うった。
The mirror ripples like the water surface.
キッドは言われるまま、鏡の表面に手 を伸ばしかけ、ふとその手を止めた。
Hearing that, Kid extends her hand towards the mirror, but suddenly, she stops.
少しの間なにか考えるようにした後、 キッドは手を引っ込めてしまった。
She thinks for a while, then retrieves her hand back.
「セルジュ、ゆずるよ。 おまえ、鏡のお気に入りだしな」
"Serge, I'll leave this chance to you(I give up, literaly). It seems you are more interested by that mirror."
「え、ほんと？ いいの？」 ボクはキッドに聞いた。
"Oh really?" I ask Kid.
キッドが首を縦にふったので、ボクは わくわくしながら鏡に手をあてた。
Kid nods her head, so I extend my hand to the mirror.
ひんやりした水のような感触だ。
It feels like the cold water surface.
「セルジュ様、いけない！！」
"Mr Serge, no!!"
とつぜん鏡にヒビが走る！
A crack appears on the mirror.
「……！！ これは……！？」
"....!! what...!?"
鏡の中でビーナスが、涙を流していた。
Venus sobs in the mirror, tears run down her face.
「わたくしは……、ヤマネコの手下です」
"I am...I'm a servant of Lynx."
Ballroom Elevator
Serge and Kid's dialogue while riding the elevator down to the Zeal ruins is more evocative of Kid's history as Schala. Originally, Serge and Kid have these choices:
- "Why bring us here, Kid? Is it fate?"
- "Don't worry, we can't lose, there's no doubt!"
[Choice One]
"...... Fate...? Life...? I don't even know anymore. But with Lynx, nothin's set in stone.
But... sometimes, it feels like there's somethin' inside me, guidin' me... no matter what I do, it won't matter because I know it'll be showin' me what to do next...
Bah, what am I sayin'... crazy talk," Kid says, smiling faintly.
[Choice Two]
"Whatever," Kid says beneath her breath, smiling faintly. "Sayings like those never made much sense to me. There's never a case where there ain't a doubt. Not a single one.
But... thanks, mate."
In utunnels's translation:
・何を相手にして？
- Who's that opponent？
・ボクらは必ず勝つよ。
- We will certainly win.
[Choice One]
「その戦いの相手というのは、何なの、 キッド？」
"Who's that opponent(were you talking about), Kid?"
「…………。 さあ……、何だろ……？ 運命……？ 人生……？ 自分でも、よくわからない……。 でも、ヤマネコとか、そーいった具体的 なヤツじゃ、ないんだ。 うまく言えないんだけど、オレのなか にもう一人のオレがいて、自分のやって ることの空しさ、愚かさを、じっと見つめ てる……、そんな気がするんだ。 おかしな話だよな……」
"....
Ah...who?
Fate...?
Life...?
I'm not sure for myself...
But I didn't mean Lynx or any specific thing.
I can't explain that well...sometimes I feel like there's another myself inside me, it is always watching, quietly, no matter how stupid my actions are...
I feel... it sounds like a funny story..."
そう言って、キッドはかすかな微笑みを 浮かべた。
Kid says with a faint smile on her face.
[Choice Two]
「心配いらないよ。 キッドは……、ボクらは、負けない。 勝つよ、必ず！」
"Don't worry.Kid..., we, won't lose. We'll win, certainly!"
「フ……、バカだな」
"You stupid..."
キッドは、やさしく微笑む。
Kid replies with a faint smile.
「この世には、”必ず”とか”絶対”とか、 言いきれるものなんか、ないんだよ。 なにひとつ、な。 でも…… ありがとう、セルジュ」
"In this world, there's no such things as 'certain' or 'absolute',no one can make such an assertion, no matter who. But....thank you, Serge."
Battle with Lynx
In Demiforce's version, Kid kicks at Lynx before spitting blood:
With as much power as she can muster, Kid kicks at Lynx, sweeping him off his feet!
"Hah!"
Spitting blood, Kid coughs a little, but still, a smile manages to come through her agony.
Originally, Lynx kicked Kid, who then spat blood:
力の限りにキッドを蹴りつけるヤマネコ！
Lynx kicks Kid with all his strength!
「ぐあ……！！」
"Ahh....!!"
血を吐いて、転がるキッド！
Kid rolls on the ground, spitting blood.
Scenario 5: Homecoming: Shea's Light
Dead Sea
The frozen sea with the green-haired Siren is more reminiscent of the Dead Sea in Chrono Cross. There was also only one corpse instead of several in this area, revealed to be the control center of the trap. Serge smashes its head or lets Magil blow it up based on the player's choices, and everything returns to normal. The sea is solid again, and the Siren stops moving. Here's the description:
嵐の海の一瞬をそのまま結晶化させた 様な逸品であるが、美しさよりはむしろ その生々しさ、凄惨さがきわだっていた。
It looks just like the storming sea frozen (solidified) in time, very exquisitely crafted.
It is more realistic and dreary / tragic than beautiful.
Mirror Trap
Demiforce's translation stated:
"We're never gonna get outta here. People have probably been trapped here their whole lives... or longer..."
"Relax, mate. We got enough food here to last us a while."
...Funny, that didn't really relax me very much...
While according to utunnels:
「一生、この館から出れないだけだ」
"We'll be trapped in this house for the rest of our lives."
「あんまりうれしくない結果だな」
"That's not a pleasant result."
「安心しろ、飯抜きの一生なんて一週間 くらいで終わる」
"Relax, a life without food won't be longer than a week(will end in a week, literally)."
……安心できない……
...How can I relax...
Shea's orphanage
In Demiforce's translation, the village was burned down. Originally, only the other orphans were killed.
"And..." I recalls that girl with a monastery robe, that robe is unique...But Magil is keeping on talking, it seems he doesn't notice my question at all. When I'm thinking I might be ignored... "That's the uniform of the ancient Communion of the Four Spirits ." But, hearing Magil talking about it, Kid scowls immediately. "Kid used to live there..." I remembered, Magil talked about that before. Kid was an orphan adopted by a Sister from the Communion of the Four Spirits. It is said, she was also an orphan, so she got along well with Kid. But one day, she was taken away by Lynx's minion and never returned. Kid was still very young at that time. Kid sneaked out of the communion. She wanted to find her in Lynx's house. But little Kid did not managed to reach Lynx's house. When she came back to the village, she found the orphans were all dead. Magil, a regular vistor of the communion, came to the orphanage one day. He found Kid sitting among the mummyfied corpses, biting her lip while staring at the direction of Lynx's house. Kid had not spoken for a whole year...it is said, since then, Magil never saw her cry...
Scenario 7: The Shadow Realm and the Goddess of Death
Confrontation with Lilith
In Demiforce's translation, Magil becomes combatively entangled with Lilith and eventually disappears into the Shadow Realm with her. Originally, Magil simply won the battle and coldly abandoned his comrades.
「リリス様を見つけた今となっては、 おまえたちに利用価値はない。命ぐらい 自分で守れ！」
Since I have already found Lilith, you guys are completely useless to me. Watch out your own lives!
ギルはするするとその影を巻き取って、 胸にしまった。
Magil rolls the shadow(Lilith) up and puts it under his bosom.
影をしまったギルの懐から、すすり泣き が聞こえる。
I hears the shadow sobs under Magil's clothes.
「もう、この光あふれる世界を去らねば ならぬのか？ せめて、ひとめでいい。 朝日が見たかった……」
"Could it be that I can no longer see this bright world? I still want to see the sunrise again..."
「おあきらめ下さい。陛下が首を長くして、 お帰りを待ちわびておられますゆえ」
"Give up that thought. His Majesty is wating for us."
冷たくギルは言った。
Magil says coldly.
影のなかに去ろうとするギル。
He steps towards the shadow...
「待って！ キッドを元に戻して！」
"Wait! Please restore Kid! "
ボクは影に滑り込むギルを、力任せに 引っ張った。
I pull Magil, who's slipping into the shadow.
「それは、おまえの仕事だ。おまえの 想いで、凍りついたキッドの魂を解凍 するんだ」
"That's your own business. Use your affection to thaw the Frozen Flame which holds Kid's soul."
ぶっきらぼうにギルが言った。
Magil says snappishly.
「考えてることのすべてをぶつけろ」
"You'd better give it up."
General Differences
Magil's Martial Arts
Demiforce cut out the name of Magil's martial art style:
Magil, faced with two goblins of his own, has already managed to reduce one to a bloody mess on the floor. The remaining beast looks as though it's already received its share of dents and bruises as well.
Even with no physical weapons of any kind, Magil looks as though he's having no trouble pulverizing the enemy with hand-to-hand tactics.
In fact, the name is "Kakuya Martial Art".
先ほどまで２匹を相手にしていたが、 すでに一匹は床に倒れ、残る奴と対峙して いた。
Magil who fought 2 foes, now has already beaten one of them to the ground, and is now facing to another.
ゴブリンの身に付けている鉄の鎧に、数 多くのへこみが見られる。
And that Goblin's iron armor already has several dents on it.
ギルは、武器を持たない。かぐや流の格 闘術を持って敵を粉砕する。故に、倒され た相手は全身紫色だ。キッドは、真っ赤 にするけど……。
Magil fights without weapons. His "Kakuya Martial art" can crush foes in the way.
So, that fallen goblin is purple all over, while the one beaten by Kid is red (stained by blood)...
Skeleton Battle
Demiforce gave Magil a lightning bolt to shatter the skeleton:
All of a sudden, Magil sends a bolt of light streaking out, precisely above my head where the skull is! It instantly explodes, sending fragments of the skull into my hands and head! "Aaaahhh!"
Originally, it was a heel axe kick.
バキッ！！
paaa!!
ギルのかかと落としが、ボクの脳天に 炸裂した。
Magil's axe kick explodes above my head.
「ガハッ！」
"Ahh!"
Warlock Battle
In the Demiforce translation, the warlock summons only rats:
From behind me, I start to hear noises. A few moments later, I see some sort of creatures scurrying along the ground, running towards us in masses.
They're giant rats!!
Originally, the warlock summons all kinds of rodents:
ふいに通路の奥がざわめきはじめた
There's some noises in the far end of the corridor
何かが駆けて来る。
Something is coming.
不快な動物の臭いが鼻を刺激する。
I can smell an aweful stink from animals.
どぶネズミ、クマネズミ、ハツカネズミ ハムスター、モルモット、リス……
Rats, roof rats, house mice, hamsters, Guinea pigs, squirrels...
「げっ歯類の大群……？？」
"A large crowd of rodents...??"
Cat Reactions
Kid is compared to a cat a couple times in the original, and Serge is compared once in battle.
- Esmeld's Room - In the original script, Kid throws the knife at Esmeld, Esmeld blocks it with his book and tosses it back, and Kid catches the knife; then...
キッドの目つきが変わる。注意深く獲物 を観察する猫のそれになった。
Kid's expression changes, like a cat who's staring at its prey vigilantly.
- At the tea table...
ふと、キッドの方を見ると、カップに息を 吹きかけている。 キッドは思いっ切り猫舌だから、すぐに は飲めない。
I glance at Kid, who's blowing into the tea cup, like a cat that's licking hot food carefully.
- In a goblin battle...
バチ！ 一種の猫だましだ。思った通り、ゴブリ ンの手の力が弛む。
[Serge slaps into the Goblin's face.]
This is a trick of cat. But as I expected, the Goblin looses its grasp.
Kitsunekobuta
Kitsune Forest is actually "Kitsunekobuta Forest". Kitsune means fox in Japanese; foxes are famous protagonists in oriental legends, like ghost stories. The original name in the script is キツネコブタ, which is an interesting word.
- キツネ/ Kitsune means fox.
- ネコ / Neko means cat.
- ブタ / Buta means pig.
utunnels has written that it's a sort of animal, and writes: "get caught by a kitsunekobuta" is something like "meet a ghost" or "see an illusion." In some oriental tales, a traveler finds a house in the mountain and gets invited by the host. When he wakes, he finds himself sleeping on the ground, and there's no house at all. It can be said he "meets a fox (kitsune)." The word is used twice elsewhere in the script.
- When Kid sees the old lady in the clock tower storage room disappears, she's surprised:
キッドは、きょとんとキツネコブタにつま まれたような顔をしていた。
The (surprised) expression on Kid's face looks like she's caught by a kitsunekobuta (キツネコブタ).
- In scenario 'Giga Weapon Paradise X', when they return from the Arena, Serge says:
ボクは、なんだかキツネコブタにつまま れたような気分だ。
I feel as if we got caught by a kitsunekobuta just now.
