Translation Differences
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Contents
- 1 Character Speech
- 2 Religious / Entity References
- 3 Sake
- 4 Chapter 06: Beyond the Ruins
- 5 Chapter 8: The End of Time
- 6 Chapter 11: Tata and the Frog
- 7 Chapter 12: The Rare Red Rock
- 8 Chapter 16: Forward to the Past
- 9 Chapter 17: Unnatural Selection?
- 10 Chapter 18: The Magic Kingdom
- 11 Chapter 19: Break the Seal!
- 12 Chapter 23: The New King
- 13 Chapter 24: The Time Egg
- 14 Chapter 25: The Fated Hour
- 15 Ending: A Slide Show?
Character Speech
In the JP version, Ayla uses the same caveman talk, althoug she has a special nickname for Crono called Cro. She uses this almost exclusively, and in the game's code, it is denoted in dialogue with the tag {crononick}. Frog was radically changed in the NA version from his original characterization; he did not speak formally and was not the cookie cutter white knight, instead having more of a raucous, activous tone. He was not afraid to call Magus a pale-faced bastard, or Ayla an idiot for believing him a meal. Thirdly, Robo and the other robots spoke in a certain way that can be compared to HAVING SOMETHING IN ALL CAPS in English. Robo specifically had trouble with pronouns and suffixes; in the Retranslation, this is represented by certain parts of words being expressed in all caps. Coming in fourth, it is worth noting that through formal Japanese, Lucca was much more reverent and humble towards Marle before the latter expressed her dislike of formal titles. Finally, Magus was a bit more scathing and reserved. He noted the "weak die like worms" when speaking of Crono's death at the hands of Lavos.
Religious / Entity References
These constitute a separate section than chapter notes mainly because they occur throughout the game. The planet is personified as a higher being in the game. Other references include Magus and Lavos being referred to as demons or gods.
- Chapter 19: Break the Seal! - Belthasar notes that the mission will succeed only if time travelers unite for the sake of the planet. This was shortened to "only by mastering time...do you stand a chance against Lavos" in the English version.
- Chapter 25: The Fated Hour - In the Japanese version, Robo postulated that the Entity was a larger existence. This was changed to "something beyond our comprehension."
Sake
For those out of the loop, sake is Japanese rice wine. Numerous references to it were removed or replaced by tamer drinks. For instance, Ayla invites the party to drink sake in the Japanese version, whereas she merely says "Come eat" in the NA ROM. Toma orders cider instead of sake in the English version of the Truce Inn, while the Carpenter is told by the Choras Innkeeper that he's had too much sugar for hte day, rather than too much alcohol.
Chapter 06: Beyond the Ruins
Rat Warning
In the NA version, the rat notes that you shouldn't mess up the button combination to access the Day of Lavos. This line was mangled from the Japanese, which said that if you had changed button assignments in the status menu, you'd have to figure out the button sequence on your own.
Robo Dialogue
In the NA version, Marle says "Hate em!" in reference to formal titles while Lucca is convincing Robo not to use them. In the JP version, she simply nods, although there does exist comparable dialogue that should have been used. Also, Lucca does not come out and directly ask what happened to the people at the Proto Dome; she rather begins a question, but is interrupted when Robo notices an absence of humans.
Chapter 8: The End of Time
Conservation of Time Theorem
The CoT Theorem is detailed a tad more in the Japanese version, in which Gaspar states that it only acts if four or more beings from different time periods step into Gate, rather than just four beings as the NA version describes.
Chapter 11: Tata and the Frog
Dreamstone's Use
Dreamstone was never used as money, as it stated in the English trasnlation. In the original, Melchior simply stated that it was valued above gold in ancient times.
Chapter 12: The Rare Red Rock
Ayla Joke
There's a bit of a bisexual joke when Ayla and Crono first meet. Ayla notes:
Ayla: Yous strong too. Ayla like strong people. Even if man, even if woman.
To which Marle and Lucca reply:
Marle: What's that supposed to mean? Lucca: I, I'm not into girls!
This was changed to "respect" in Ayla's case and "Marle: Oh, brother..." "Lucca: Where have they been keeping her?" concerning the player characters.
Rock Crash
The "Poi" soup of the NA version is actually pure sake. Ayla notes that they make a cocktail with it called the "Rock Crash."
Chapter 16: Forward to the Past
Mystic Mountain Dream
Ayla did not have a "strange dream" that told her of her friends' placement on Mystic Mountain, but instead merely wanted to meet them and coincidentally found them there. This revelation was completely invented by the NA translation.
Chapter 17: Unnatural Selection?
Nizbel confusingly notes in the NA version that "the great Nizbel was defeated here!" Nizbel originally was meant to say, "you can reach Azala only by getting through me, Nizbel...who came back!" He was triumphantly announcing his return.
Chapter 18: The Magic Kingdom
Janus and Schala aren't step-siblings
[Young Man] I heard Schala's powers far exceed those of her mother. Then there's her step-brother, Janus. He's of royal blood, but he doesn't seem to have a speck of magic.
I hear that even though he has the blood of the Royal Family, he truly does not have any magical power.
Chapter 19: Break the Seal!
Belthasar's Mission
While in the NA version Belthasar simply states that he longs for Zeal in his pre-Epoch speech, in the Japanese version he directly states that he was building the Epoch precisely to take him home. Sadly, he died before he could accomplish this.
Chapter 23: The New King
Dalton's Trick
In the original game, when Dalton was attempting to subjugate the party, he said "look over there!" to confuse them before blasting them with a variety of fireballs. Compare to Marty McFly's use of "WHAT THE HELL IS THAT?!" with Biff in Back to the Future. This was simply changed to "How's this?" in the NA version, losing the meaning completely.
Chapter 24: The Time Egg
Nu
Concerning the Nu who sleeps "beyond the flow of time," the Japanese version more directly states that time does not flow for this Nu any longer.
Poyozo Doll
Though a minor detail, it is interesting to note that in the Japanese version, the Poyozo Dolls say "EXECUTING HIGHEST PROGRAM!" instead of merely "Executing Program."
Chapter 25: The Fated Hour
Gaspar (Make me a member of your team!)
Gaspar notes that if the party would thank him, they should make him a member of the team. This has been used to fuel the idea that Gaspar was going to be the eighth playable character. However, this was an erroneous translation. In the Japanese, he never mentions making him a team member. The line in question is the fourth one from the top. The confusion likely came from the _にする, which can indeed mean "make [someone/something] into _". It can't mean that here, though. The most obvious reason is that he uses the explicit plural 仲間達 (companions), and it doesn't make any sense in Japanese or English to say "make me your companions".
Taking the beginning of the sentence into account, the phrase should be read as 仲間達に[かんしゃ]する, with an implied かんしゃ (thanks), taken from the first half of the sentence. This unambiguously translates to "express thanks to companions". In short, the first half of his above speech means, "Don't thank me, thank your companions."
Gaspar (One if you is close to someone...)
OLD MAN: One of you is close to someone who needs help... Find this person...fast.
The gist of the Japanese statement:
For matters regarding each time era, speak to someone here for information.
If it's about the things in your own time period, there's somebody in your group that knows. You should ask them.
Everyone knows about their own eras best. You should ask them.
Rainbow Shell
Instead of remarking that it is drab, in the Japanese version Magus fashionably notes "the color doesn't suit [him]."
Sun Stone
Robo had a quote in the English ROM that exactly quantified the time needed to recharge the Sun Stone. It is a fabrication of the localization team, as Robo does not give any number or estimate in the original version of the game.
Ending: A Slide Show?
The slide show ending is much raunchier in the Japanese version. So as to not spoil the jokes, please consult the Retranslation Script to find the humor.
From: Theory